Drexler's back, and 
he has a few things to say

Importance of melding old media with the new
   
By Jeremy Schlosberg

    Michael Drexler is a quintessential media guy, with 40 years of experience in media departments at some of the industryís most renowned full-service agencies, including Ogilvy & Mather, DDB and Bozell. He has been at the media director level and above since 1970 and most recently served as executive vice president and media director of FCB Worldwide. Today he officially joins Mediasmith, opening its New York office as executive vice president. Mediasmith is a media planning and buying agency that launched in 1989; since the introduction of the web as a viable ad channel, the agency has come to specialize in the integration of old and new media. For a 40-year industry veteran, Drexler shows a lot of enthusiasm for the ad revolution in progress known as the internet. He sat down to answer a few questions for Media Life earlier this week.

 

 

Your background is in traditional media and working for full-service agencies. Why did you decide to switch to a media planning and buying agency, and one that specializes in the internet in particular?

     During the ë90s it became clear that advertisers were perfectly willing to separate their media requirements from their other marketing and creative requirement. So many of the large agencies themselves unbundled their media functions. The world has changed, itís become a media specialistís world, thatís what advertisers began looking foróthey want the best services, wherever they happen to come from.

 

That explains the media partówhat about the internet part?

    Over the last several years I have clearly seen that the internet was going to play a bigger and bigger role in the allocation of marketing investments for advertisers, whether they were a bricks and mortar company or whether they were an online company. So I found myself naturally interested in getting much more involved in new media. Because I fully believe that itís going to have a significantly greater impact on advertising in the years to come.
    I believe weíre in a different world today than we were in only a few years ago. We exist today in a world that requires advertisers to have a real understanding of the integration between online and offline media. Itís not simply a case of one substituting for the other. Itís a situation of understanding how both can work together. I think thatís the key to it.

 

Mediasmith right now is a 50-person agency. How much of an adjustment is this for you after a career spent with large, full-scale agencies?

     I think in the entrepreneurial environment you have a lot more freedom to innovate. And thatís clearly what these folks are doing. Theyíve gone way beyond the simple cost per thousand or cost per click. They look at cost per application and cost per page view and cost per saleóthings that focus on ROI. Thatís where marketers are today. Theyíre not gauging efficiency on the conventional idea of cost per thousand. Or they shouldnít be.

 

How well do you think advertisers have used new media to their advantage at this point?

     Initially the dot.com companies and the technology companies and a lot of the convergence companies were the ones that most fully utilized the online media. The unfortunate thing is that unless youíre specifically in the transactional business, just diving into online advertising doesnít answer the larger question. If you are really looking for branding, if branding becomes important, you have to understand how to integrate online and offline media to create the real values of a brand.
      Many people think that branding is simply awareness or recognition of a name or a company. But itís not. Branding is a relationship with the consumer. Itís about one-to-one marketing. Itís about targeting. Itís about relevance. 
     To feed people information thatís not relevant to them is not going to help you establish a brand. Itís done by finding the right combination of online and offline media. 
     Itís not done simply by shoveling money onto television. I mean, we all know how many dot.com companies spent $2 or 3 million on the Super Bowl. And boy there was a lot of money wasted when they did that.

 

What about the traditional media companies themselvesóhow effectively are they dealing with the opportunities opened up online?

     What I see now are all the major media companies creating infrastructures that allow them to combine and customize their online and offline assets and offer them as multimedia packages to advertisers. 
    Itís not just AOL-Time Warner, itís everybody, and itís becoming increasingly important. Previously either they didnít give the online aspect of their business enough attention or they simply gave it away. 
    Now I think theyíre recognizing that itís the customized solution that is the answer to having a multimedia business base. Advertisers are showing a lot of interest in this.
    I feel that the new world is really a world of convergenceóand by convergence I donít mean just the TV and the PC . I mean all media converging together. Magazines, newspapers, radioóall the various media are finding ways to use the web to enhance their core products. 
     That makes it a very exciting time to be in the media business. I think offline and online companies alike are all involved today in what Iíll call a strategic-driven environment. Everyone has to be a little smarter, everyone has to have more innovation, and everyone has to find new ways to bring their media platforms and asset bases together to maximize the potential for revenue and growth.

 

You talk about the importance of integrating online and offline media strategies. How well in general do you think advertisers are doing this?

     Well, by now I think they all understand the need for it. But I donít think theyíre doing enough of it. I believe without a doubt that advertisers will soon be allocating significantly more of their marketing investments to online media. Many of the packaged goods companies have already publicly announced their intention to reduce their investment in the mass media and increase their online spending.
    It really is about integration and itís about optimizing all of the media alternatives that are available today. Itís not simply saying we need an online component. This really is about reconceiving the entire advertising process, not just about adding some fixed idea of "interactivity" to existing strategies.

 

What are the biggest challenges facing advertisers right now when it comes to using the web?

     The No. 1 challenge is standardization. Weíve got to find some comparable methods of evaluation. Youíve got to have some standardization in how things are measured. 
    The second challenge is the research. Thereís got to be a lot more research, and for this to happen I think the metrics have to change. Thereís a lot of work still to be done here.
    But itís worth it because the web is a new medium offering previously unavailable capabilities to advertisers. 
    Youíre talking point to point here. No oneís ever been able to do that before the web came along. Clearly thatís a major advantage. And the interactivity is something you canít do anywhere else. Other media will eventually have it, but right now interactivity is for the most part about the web.

 

It seems that interactivity took a very narrow definition on the web at firstóbasically, it came down to clicks on banner ads. Did the ad industry get a bit too distracted by clicks for its own good?

    Well, everybody was trying to figure it outódo we make money from advertising? From e-commerce? Nobody knew exactly what to do. People counted clicks because thatís what you could do. But not every advertiser wants to or has to be a direct response company.
   Even now there are still a lot of companies out there today who are still trying to figure the web out. The early adoptersóthe technology companies, the convergence companiesóthey tend to get it. But there are a lot of companies that are still trying to figure out how the web fits into their marketing plan. Most predominantly packaged goods manufacturers.
    In a way, too much focus on clicks has kept companies from understanding how incredibly important a branding tool the internet can be. As I said before, branding is not just a matter of putting money into mass media to gain awareness, itís about a one to one relationship with the consumer. 
    When you remember that, you can begin to see that the internet is ideally suited to branding. Companies are going to find that they must add online to the media mix to create the essence of branding, which drills down into trust and knowledge and understanding of the brand. That can be done online in ways that were never possible all these years with traditional media.


-Jeremy Schlosberg is the senior editor for new media.


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